(Since the LWR sucks, I figured I would repost it here for all to marvel at.)
Here’s how it all started.
Orhun tells me that Bill screwed him on ebay. Bill stopped using Paypal, and forces an international money order. By the time Orhun catches wise to being scammed, he can’t stop payment, can’t get his money back. And figures good luck getting mail fraud charges to stick internationally. Orhun also tells me that Bill screwed over Gaasland too. So Bill is added to the shady trader list and his trade list (which hadn’t been updated since Oct 2005) is changed to read,
BOOOOO! Bill’s back to ripping off dudes again. WEAK.
This was done on January 2nd. Get ready for the email barrage.
Email One
(Note: the bottome message is an attached myspace message
from some shirt dude wanting gear from Bill)
Subject: HYE HERE’S SOME FUCKIN’ FYI
Date: Mon, January 8, 2007 1:33 pm
Pretty cute motherfuckers. I guess next time I see you it won’t be all smiles and handjobs…
John A. Gaasland didn’t get ripped by me, he got ripped by Paypal. So until I get the fucking money back from them, he gets no shirt. Just as I told him personally.
Orhun, got his shit a month or so ago. I’ve got the USPS cash receipt and part of the customs declaration thanks to my favorite postal worker at my box. I knew that guy was gonna start his shit like the very next day per usual, so I was prepared this time. Too bad I lost the email Casali sent me saying “You know how Euro’s are…” in reference to them being paranoid about getting ripped off. I like how he turned that shit around to make it sound like I fucking said those words (Orhun was kinda upset about that comment, Chris should be ashamed, but fuck it. It came back on me, so no sweat off his ass, right?), so he could get some extra nut biting before years end or what ever that was about.
Like I said fuck his boy, and pretty much fuck him too. Come talkin’ crazy, you get shit from me. Be it a simple tracking number, an even simpler email, or even a god damn pic of the shit I have on file from the post office. Tough shit. Disrespect works both ways and I ain’t about to budge.
You want to play internet slander games, cool. See you on the flip.
-Bill
PS- Since I’m up to shady shit again why do I have fuckers still trying to trade or buy shit off me from HYE? Take me off the motherfucker or keep up the bitch shit and see where that takes you.
Jan 7 2007 8:15 PM
Subject: yo
Body: i was wondering what you thought about the offers? actually these are the only shirts i really need. i know you got shit from howsyouredge or whatever but dude i nneeeed these.AGNOSTIC FRONT “Blind Justice Tour 90” black large SS $135.00
AGNOSTIC FRONT early design has soldier with gas mask/gun (has a tiny/old Screen Stars tag) grey xl SS $100.00 (i could score this shirt for cheaper but man i suck at waiting)
KILLING TIME Raw Deal shirt green xl LS $75.00
let me know what you think about these offers.
-john
My response:
Date: Mon, January 8, 2007 3:45 pm
Are you high? Smiles and handjobs? When the fuck was that? I have no reason to believe Orhun would be lying and considering your checkered past, every reason to believe those who speak out against you. Sending me an email full of threats isn’t a good way of proving your innocence, now is it? Disrespecting Casali is the nail in the coffin on your shady shit.
PEACE!
Email Two
Date: Mon, January 8, 2007 5:03 pm
Nail in the coffin? Who the fuck do you two think you are? What are you gonna do but get your scrawny ass beat over shit like this?
What the fuck is Casali gonna do other than suck my dick? Come out here? Attack me on the internet to show off to all his “boys”? How come you bad motherfuckers always run your shit on the nerd, but when I’m in any of you shit mouthed bastard’s presence, not a single dude steps? Jason Wallace got confronted after he ran his bitch mouth on Livewire, didn’t do shit. I was there in his HOMETOWN, motherfucker didn’t do shit. Didn’t do shit at Posi Numbers 03, YOT Reunions, and still doesn’t do shit, like when I waived at him like an asshole the other night at the Bitter End show in Nashville. Fucking bitch ass Tim Kriependorf didn’t have shit to say at Posi Numbers when I’m sittin’ there chillin’ with McMahon off and on at the TT table or when I was at any of those Insted shows. Now you fucking dorks, come with it. It won’t happen. Fuck you. Keep typin’.
What you gonna do? Fucking mock and insult me on a public forum? I’m sure it’s internet pussy work of some sort. Oh no! Life will come to a screaching halt, won’t it? You’ll teach us shady motherfuckers not to fuck with you and yours, huh? Real hardcore dudes, keepin’ it really hardcore. Fuckin’ pussies.
High? I’m not the one acting like Casali’s got superhero ability. Stop sucking that guy’s dick long enough to realize that I don’t give a fuck about you dudes. His dick’s got you trippin’ hard, must have turned you out real good by the sound of it.
Fuck you, Orhun, Gaasland, Casali, and anyone else that runs their pussy ass mouth on this internet shit. I’ll be out there again, take it up with me in person. Keep this bitch ass ho shit to yourself and your lover, Casali. Talk is cheap. Pass that along to Casali and the rest.
Threats? No threats on that first email, now for sure. You can bet I’ll step the fuck up when I see you two and you can bet I’ll have the fuckin’ back up on hold. Not fucked up in the least bit.
Keep it up.
PS- I got a website too…Uh oh… fuckin’ faggots…
And a quick one.
Email Three
Date: Mon, January 8, 2007 9:28 pm
While I’m at it…
Take every god damn thing to do with me and my name off your site. It won’t be shit for me to drop the ends to get an attorney just to fuck with you and your wonderful website. Call my bluff, please. I got other dudes selling shit for ME on the internet. Money really does grow on fucking trees in this shady motherfucker’s neck of the woods, a grand or two will be all it takes…
I love this shit.
Bill’s latest myspace campaign:
Bill KEEPITCORE
Jan 8 2007 10:11P
So there you have it. Does that sound like the voice of an innocent, honest trader trying to keep up his good rep? Give him a hand please. It seems like he could use it. Needless to say, his collection and swap list were removed from HYE. However, his name is still listed as a shady trader for obvious reasons. I will not be replying to any more of Bill’s emails after I email him a link to this thread. However, I will feel free to post any responses from him on the internet. Heck, who knows? Maybe this will prod an apology out of him. Or maybe dudes will start getting their shirts. If that happens, I’ll see to it that this thread is immediately deleted.
Peace!